Vogoo set-up advice
Cogmap is starting down the path of introducing collaborative filtering. Soon, very soon, we will start to tell you maps that you might like, based on maps you have looked at or edited in the past!
We are attempting to use Vogoo, which is a Slope One engine perfect for what we are trying to do. Unfortunately, the documentation is a bit weak. Not terrible, but not great either. I wanted to document a few of my questions and some of the things I did for the next lucky guy!
Set-up
The tutorial tells you how to set ratings, but the installation guide tells you that you should do other things also when you are going to set ratings. And there are no examples. Sad face.
I have sat down and tried to implement all of the things they explain at different points and here is what I ended up with (An example, YAY!):
define('VOGOO_DIR','<PATH TO VOGOO DIR>');include("<PATH TO VOGOO.PHP>");$vogoo_check = $vogoo->connected;if($vogoo_check){ $rate = $vogoo->automatic_rating($userid,$chartid);} else { generate_error(0,"Vogoo DB not connecting"); }
Now, I used the automatic rating function because I wanted every logged in view to count as a vote. Then I use subscribing (which happens automatically on a chart edit), as a “purchase” or indication of love++ for a chart.
Questions
It sure sounds like you can’t do both user filtering and item filtering at the same time. For a site like this - kind of a social network wrapped around an application - that is kind of bleh. Ideally I want to say here are the kind of maps you like and then also have a “here are users who dig the same maps”.
Despite my bashing of the documentation, when I sent an email with a question, I got a response 24 hours later…. twice! So that’s pretty good support and I was using the free version. Of course, he failed to find my bugs, which in retrospect were dumb bugs. Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Big Conclusion
So now we are up and gathering data. My plan is to run it for a month or so and then look at what kind of data set I have. According to the Vogoo manual, you have to run a separate php program to compute the links between each item, so I assume (although once again the documentation doesn’t discuss it), that I need a fairly good sized sample. With more than 3,000 maps, I need a little time to develop and expose relationships. Once I see what the data looks like, I will begin to figure out how to crowd my UI and add that in.
Now, I am not the world’s greatest programmer by any means. In fact, many would testify that I may be the world’s worst. So take all of my advice with a grain of salt, but enjoy!
– brent


December 13th, 2007 at 3:32 am
Hi Brent,
To be honest, the problem with the bug you sent me was that they were depending on your server configuration which, obviously, I couldn’t have access to.
Anyway, I had very little time to do a proper documentation for Vogoo PHP but all suggestions are welcome. Especially I’d like to know what kind of examples/tutorials you think would be helpful to start with Vogoo.
By the way, you can use both item-based and user-based collaborative filtering in the same project. The only limitation is that you can’t use both item-based engines at the same time.
Cheers,
Stephane
January 10th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Like I said, great follow-up support! Surely, with support this hands-on, all problems can be overcome!
February 25th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
How’s implementation of Vogoo going? I’m thinking about using it for my website and was interested if you did end up using it and how it’s working out for you.
Thanks,
Gabe
February 25th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Vogoo is working like a charm. We are gearing up to launch the new stuff and it looks great.
September 20th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Hi, do you think the user-based collaborative filtering from Vogoo would be fast enough to use in my website (1500 users a month) and scalable if my website grows to 10000 users a month? Looks like a great package!
September 20th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Cognap has far more users than either of those numbers and no problems.